2013 World of Pinot Noir Seminar – Not Pinot Blanc, Not Pinot Gris, it’s White Pinot Noir!?

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Imagine Blanc de Noir without the bubbles. Weird? Not really. A few aspiring wineries and their “hey, let’s do it” winemakers are actually making what they correctly refer to as white pinot noir. Okay, so it’s still really the same as “normal” pinot noir, just without the color, right? Wrong! It turns out, when you leave the skins out of the fermentation process, it’s a whole new ballgame. Think Chardonnay – but with a completely different personality. The aromatic qualities take a quantum leap, and the flavor and textures, though similar to pinot – are still…well, different!

So, who makes this stuff? Well, so far it seems confined to Oregon (Anne Amie, Erath, Domaine Serene, Willakenzie Estate, J.K. Carriere, Ghost Hill, Novy Family), and to California (Schramsberg, and Domaine Carneros). When you consider it costs just as much to make as (red) pinot noir, as well as it taking the grapes away from the pinot noir sales, you can see why there’s not much of it around.

Join us as we hear about the how and the why from Jim Prosser from J. K. Carriere, Gary Horner from Erath Winery, and Zack Miller from Domaine Carneros, with Fred Dame moderating.

For more info:
World of Pinot Noir: www.worldofpinotnoir.com/
J.K. Carrier Wines: www.jkcarriere.com/
Domaine Carneros: www.domainecarneros.com/index.cfm
Erath Winery: http://www.erath.com/

Sponsor: Millesima, Fine Wine Merchants: www.millesima-usa.com

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8 Responses to “2013 World of Pinot Noir Seminar – Not Pinot Blanc, Not Pinot Gris, it’s White Pinot Noir!?”


  1. 1 Charlie Sep 8th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    What grape was “The Eye of the Swan” by Sebastiani back in the 1970s made from?

  2. 2 GrapeRadio Bunch Sep 9th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Hi Charlie,

    According to the additional label from the Sonoma Library (posted above), it’s Pinot Noir.

    Eric

  3. 3 Charlie Sep 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Thanks Eric. I thought I remembered it being Pinot Noir. I guess that’s lost to history and the fading memories of old guys like me. In any case this was my wife’s favorite wine at the time. She went on to White Zinfandel but fortunately has graduated to better reds and whites.

    My recollection is that this was not a horrible wine and certainly better than most white zind.

    Charlie

  4. 4 GrapeRadio Bunch Sep 9th, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    You know, back in the late ’80s it looked like White Zin was going to continue on to be the next big thing. I recall Connoisseur’s Guide to California Wine having a edition featuring White Zin. There were a ton of wines, and several seemed to please them – not an easy thing to do. The secret, IMHO, was to LEAVE IN the fruit, instead of diluting the wine to alcohol and acid. Most of the beauties were from the Sierra Foothills or Contra Costa – NOT from the mainstays of Napa or Sonoma.

    Eric

  5. 5 Rebecca Pittock Shouldis Sep 12th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Thanks for the mention Eric! Our Pinot Noir Blanc is a whole half of our production and the most challenging wine I make each year. I appreciate you spreading the word on white Pinot noir in this well done article on the subject. ~Cheers!

  6. 6 GrapeRadio Bunch Sep 18th, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    You’re welcome, Rebecca. I thought the wines had amazing aromas and flavors. Sorry yours (Ghost Hill) wasn’t among those poured. But, kudos for continuing to make the wine – challenging as it may be.

    Eric

  7. 7 Jennifer Burke Oct 11th, 2013 at 3:13 am

    Hello, I just tuned into your grape raido broadcast on FilmonTV. I live in Switzerland. My family has a small winery: Caprice du temps. We make a Dôle Blanche (http://capricedutemps.com/FR/Vins/GammeEclair/SpecialitesBlanches/DoleBlanche.html)

    I believe we have been making it for over 30 years. It is a pinot noir, pressed immediately. It is not a fad nor a fashion, but a staple on many tables here in Switzerland.

    According to Wikipedia, Dôle Blanche is unique to AOC Valais (where my family’s winery is located).

    I just wanted to bring it to your attention, because nobody seems to know much about Swiss wines.

    Please let me know if you would like more information. I am happy to find it for you.

    Regards,
    Jennifer Burke

  8. 8 Rusty Gaffney Oct 18th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Hello Jennifer

    I would like more information on Dole Blance – send to me at prince@princeofpinot.com.

    Thanks,
    Rusty

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